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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sucked in on the snotty fat hippo</description>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sucked in on the snotty fat hippo</description>
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		<title>By: Mythor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mythor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Centrelink will chase anyone, any time, for any reason. Harassing people is one of the very few things they&#039;re good at. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Centrelink will chase anyone, any time, for any reason. Harassing people is one of the very few things they&#39;re good at. :)</p>
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		<title>By: nat s</title>
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		<dc:creator>nat s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well you  would think in this country you are innocent untuil proven guilty...and yes someone up there made a good point...why, after so long ago did centreflunk chase her? why when she was famous? smells like a free scare campaign to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you  would think in this country you are innocent untuil proven guilty&#8230;and yes someone up there made a good point&#8230;why, after so long ago did centreflunk chase her? why when she was famous? smells like a free scare campaign to me</p>
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		<title>By: Mythor</title>
		<link>http://www.mythor.net/thebiggestloser/2008/06/12/ajay-rochester-to-face-fraud-charges-next-tuesday/comment-page-1/#comment-5111</link>
		<dc:creator>Mythor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is a fansite for a TV show. It isn&#039;t the only site I run. Nor is it my &quot;personal rave about Ajay&quot;. What&#039;s truly sad is that you assume one single post can summarise an entire website.&lt;br&gt;And you should note that I didn&#039;t criticise Centreflunk, only suggested that that may be a more appropriate venue than continuing your crusade here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And &quot;fanatical support&quot;? You mean because I haven&#039;t hung, drawn and quartered her before the trial&#039;s even started?&lt;br&gt;You can&#039;t seriously be that thick.&lt;br&gt;Though I do find it interesting that your mind went from &quot;fantasy shag&quot; to &quot;sister&quot;. I guess it&#039;s true what they say about Tasmanians!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is a fansite for a TV show. It isn&#39;t the only site I run. Nor is it my &#8220;personal rave about Ajay&#8221;. What&#39;s truly sad is that you assume one single post can summarise an entire website.<br />And you should note that I didn&#39;t criticise Centreflunk, only suggested that that may be a more appropriate venue than continuing your crusade here.</p>
<p>And &#8220;fanatical support&#8221;? You mean because I haven&#39;t hung, drawn and quartered her before the trial&#39;s even started?<br />You can&#39;t seriously be that thick.<br />Though I do find it interesting that your mind went from &#8220;fantasy shag&#8221; to &#8220;sister&#8221;. I guess it&#39;s true what they say about Tasmanians!</p>
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		<title>By: Garrie Cleveland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrie Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok Mythor.. I&#039;ll head back to my site... at least we have common sense there... your fanatical support of this Ajay must be due to something you are not disclosing here.. like she&#039;s your fantasy shag or something ?? Maybe your sister ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Political tirades ? Man, do you have a wake up call coming... at least on my site we&#039;re attempting to do some constructive assistance to people under the Centrelink hammer... this site seems to be just your personal rave about Ajay.... sad...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;watchdoggie1951</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok Mythor.. I&#39;ll head back to my site&#8230; at least we have common sense there&#8230; your fanatical support of this Ajay must be due to something you are not disclosing here.. like she&#39;s your fantasy shag or something ?? Maybe your sister ?</p>
<p>Political tirades ? Man, do you have a wake up call coming&#8230; at least on my site we&#39;re attempting to do some constructive assistance to people under the Centrelink hammer&#8230; this site seems to be just your personal rave about Ajay&#8230;. sad&#8230;</p>
<p>watchdoggie1951</p>
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		<title>By: Mythor</title>
		<link>http://www.mythor.net/thebiggestloser/2008/06/12/ajay-rochester-to-face-fraud-charges-next-tuesday/comment-page-1/#comment-5109</link>
		<dc:creator>Mythor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone receives a fortnightly form... And there is a world of difference between wilfully not reporting income (or other money received) and simply forgetting to do so, or thinking it doesn&#039;t fall under a category, etc. One is a deliberate flouting of the rules, the other is forgetfulness, naivete or whatever. It may be extremely hard to not know the rules, but that doesn&#039;t mean impossible.&lt;br&gt;And given the fact that you yourself know it is possible for Centrelink to make mistakes, it&#039;s entirely possible for someone, such as Ajay, to not have done anything wrong at all and still be in a world of trouble.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I understood what you said quite well, thanks. What I don&#039;t understand is what your tirades have to do with me or my post. You seem to be trying to imply that I&#039;m endorsing rorting the system, when in actuality all I said was that there could be a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Ajay may have broken the rules, but the reality is that reasonable explanations are not necessarily going to cut the mustard with Centrelink.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You may like to think you&#039;re not political, but being an Admin on the forums of an anti-Government-Department website would be enough to be considered political by most folk. Just so you know. :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to continue your political tirades, I suggest you head back to Centreflunk as that&#039;s really not what this blog is about. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone receives a fortnightly form&#8230; And there is a world of difference between wilfully not reporting income (or other money received) and simply forgetting to do so, or thinking it doesn&#39;t fall under a category, etc. One is a deliberate flouting of the rules, the other is forgetfulness, naivete or whatever. It may be extremely hard to not know the rules, but that doesn&#39;t mean impossible.<br />And given the fact that you yourself know it is possible for Centrelink to make mistakes, it&#39;s entirely possible for someone, such as Ajay, to not have done anything wrong at all and still be in a world of trouble.</p>
<p>And I understood what you said quite well, thanks. What I don&#39;t understand is what your tirades have to do with me or my post. You seem to be trying to imply that I&#39;m endorsing rorting the system, when in actuality all I said was that there could be a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Ajay may have broken the rules, but the reality is that reasonable explanations are not necessarily going to cut the mustard with Centrelink.</p>
<p>You may like to think you&#39;re not political, but being an Admin on the forums of an anti-Government-Department website would be enough to be considered political by most folk. Just so you know. :)</p>
<p>If you want to continue your political tirades, I suggest you head back to Centreflunk as that&#39;s really not what this blog is about. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Garrie Cleveland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrie Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry there,Mythor :  you seem to have misinterpreted my meaning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fame or notoriety should have NO relevance at all : under the Law, we should be all the same. It is extremely hard to NOT know if you should be telling Centrelink about any income : they put the classification of income on EVERY fornightly form , and in every pamphlet they produce. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not political, but the truth is, John Howard turned Australia into a nation of wimps and dobbers while in power. The &quot; Guilty until proven innocent &quot; has become the norm ; and I say again, people who rort the system make it very hard for those who didn&#039;t to prove their innocence. I thought I made that point very clear ?? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Due to the labelling of all welfare recipients as dishonest and untrustworthy by folks like John Howard, Hockey, Hank Jongen, etc, the general public believe that if Centrelink SAY you&#039;re a rorter, then you ARE one !!  We have challenged this attitude again and again, but WE don&#039;t get the media coverage  that those got.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course everyone who Centrelink accuse of being guilty ARE NOT !! In fact, using the figures supplied by the ANAO , the REALITY is that only .115 % of all welfare recipients are , in fact, rorting the system !!  That means that 99.885 % are doing the right thing ....  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And yes... we DO liken Centrelink to a Nazi regime ... complete with jackboots and technical genocide .... you take someone&#039;s sole income away from them for 8 weeks and tell me HOW they&#039;re supposed to survive ??  They&#039;ve been found guilty by the Ombudsman of conduct OUTSIDE the Australian constitution ... and also guilty of taking actions against customers NOT contained within the Social Security Act. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe I should have structured my original post in a different way ... but I still say if you&#039;ve done the dirty, you deserve whatever you get.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;watchdoggie1951.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry there,Mythor :  you seem to have misinterpreted my meaning.</p>
<p>Fame or notoriety should have NO relevance at all : under the Law, we should be all the same. It is extremely hard to NOT know if you should be telling Centrelink about any income : they put the classification of income on EVERY fornightly form , and in every pamphlet they produce. </p>
<p>I&#39;m not political, but the truth is, John Howard turned Australia into a nation of wimps and dobbers while in power. The &#8221; Guilty until proven innocent &#8221; has become the norm ; and I say again, people who rort the system make it very hard for those who didn&#39;t to prove their innocence. I thought I made that point very clear ?? </p>
<p>Due to the labelling of all welfare recipients as dishonest and untrustworthy by folks like John Howard, Hockey, Hank Jongen, etc, the general public believe that if Centrelink SAY you&#39;re a rorter, then you ARE one !!  We have challenged this attitude again and again, but WE don&#39;t get the media coverage  that those got.</p>
<p>Of course everyone who Centrelink accuse of being guilty ARE NOT !! In fact, using the figures supplied by the ANAO , the REALITY is that only .115 % of all welfare recipients are , in fact, rorting the system !!  That means that 99.885 % are doing the right thing &#8230;.  </p>
<p>And yes&#8230; we DO liken Centrelink to a Nazi regime &#8230; complete with jackboots and technical genocide &#8230;. you take someone&#39;s sole income away from them for 8 weeks and tell me HOW they&#39;re supposed to survive ??  They&#39;ve been found guilty by the Ombudsman of conduct OUTSIDE the Australian constitution &#8230; and also guilty of taking actions against customers NOT contained within the Social Security Act. </p>
<p>Maybe I should have structured my original post in a different way &#8230; but I still say if you&#39;ve done the dirty, you deserve whatever you get.</p>
<p>watchdoggie1951.</p>
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		<title>By: Mythor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mythor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not disagreeing with me?&lt;br&gt;I agree that those who engage in deliberate and wilful fraud should be punished to the maximum extent permissible under the law.&lt;br&gt;But if you genuinely did not know that you had to report to Centrelink that you had received money in some fashion, they can punish you as if you *did* know and wilfully broke the rules. There were even ads trumpeting the &quot;Ignorance is no defense&quot; stance of Centrelink.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Given that the site you&#039;re linking to likens Centrelink to a nazi-esque organisation, I&#039;d&#039;ve thought you&#039;d be the very last person to defend them harassing someone, particularly when the harassment is only occuring many, many years after the alleged breach.&lt;br&gt;Are you trying to tell me that everyone accused of wronging Centrelink has always been guilty? Or are they only judged guilty before the trial if they&#039;re famous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re not disagreeing with me?<br />I agree that those who engage in deliberate and wilful fraud should be punished to the maximum extent permissible under the law.<br />But if you genuinely did not know that you had to report to Centrelink that you had received money in some fashion, they can punish you as if you *did* know and wilfully broke the rules. There were even ads trumpeting the &#8220;Ignorance is no defense&#8221; stance of Centrelink.</p>
<p>Given that the site you&#39;re linking to likens Centrelink to a nazi-esque organisation, I&#39;d&#39;ve thought you&#39;d be the very last person to defend them harassing someone, particularly when the harassment is only occuring many, many years after the alleged breach.<br />Are you trying to tell me that everyone accused of wronging Centrelink has always been guilty? Or are they only judged guilty before the trial if they&#39;re famous?</p>
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		<title>By: Garrie Cleveland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrie Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to disagree with you, but even though I am a sworn enemy of Centrelink and it&#039;s screwups, I believe in &quot; if you rort, and get caught, sympathy you&#039;ll get nought&quot; !!&lt;br&gt;Wilfull fraud has NO excuse : whether it be by non-declaration of income or whatever. If you make the decision to not tell them about income, you have NOTHING to whine about if you&#039;re caught out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People who deliberately rort the system make it so much harder for those who don&#039;t yet are accused of it to prove themselves innocent. Centrelink use these deliberate rorters to convince the public that ALL welfare recipients are untrustworthy : so if Centrelink accuse you of rorting, it&#039;s a natural assumption that you&#039;re guilty !!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If she has, then let her face the music for it ; if she hasn&#039;t, then fight it out with them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;watchdoggie1951.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.centreflunk.com&quot;&gt;www.centreflunk.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to disagree with you, but even though I am a sworn enemy of Centrelink and it&#39;s screwups, I believe in &#8221; if you rort, and get caught, sympathy you&#39;ll get nought&#8221; !!<br />Wilfull fraud has NO excuse : whether it be by non-declaration of income or whatever. If you make the decision to not tell them about income, you have NOTHING to whine about if you&#39;re caught out.</p>
<p>People who deliberately rort the system make it so much harder for those who don&#39;t yet are accused of it to prove themselves innocent. Centrelink use these deliberate rorters to convince the public that ALL welfare recipients are untrustworthy : so if Centrelink accuse you of rorting, it&#39;s a natural assumption that you&#39;re guilty !!</p>
<p>If she has, then let her face the music for it ; if she hasn&#39;t, then fight it out with them.</p>
<p>watchdoggie1951.  <a href="http://www.centreflunk.com">http://www.centreflunk.com</a></p>
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